tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post4362740984659241426..comments2024-03-25T04:53:09.576-07:00Comments on Big Orange Landmarks: No. 160 - ManzanarFloyd B. Bariscalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08865316405393661242noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-60144164757958359992009-03-20T12:09:00.000-07:002009-03-20T12:09:00.000-07:00Thanks, Rosemary. My family was in the same boat a...Thanks, Rosemary. My family was in the same boat as yours, but since they didn't look different like the Japanese, I'm not sure they had as much to fear.Floyd B. Bariscalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865316405393661242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-61709370053746762382009-03-20T11:12:00.000-07:002009-03-20T11:12:00.000-07:00Very interesting. My mother's father was the son o...Very interesting. My mother's father was the son of German immigrants, and they lived in a German area in Orange County. My mothers says that when the Japanese were rounded up, the Germans were terrified that they would be next.Rosemary Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14188485725647779804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-43921768868483781692008-08-07T09:00:00.000-07:002008-08-07T09:00:00.000-07:00Thanks for the comment, Robert. The inscription re...Thanks for the comment, Robert. The inscription reads "Memorial to the Dead".Floyd B. Bariscalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865316405393661242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-56903641780102117602008-08-07T01:31:00.000-07:002008-08-07T01:31:00.000-07:00Hello Floyd -- A personal note about Manzanar. My ...Hello Floyd -- A personal note about Manzanar. My mother was about 18 years old in 1942. There were many Japanese Americans living in San Pedro, CA that year. One of my mother’s best friends was one such individual, a Japanese American girl also about 18 years old. I wish I remembered her name, and my mother passed away 2 years ago or I’d ask her. My mother remembers the day her friend was removed and taken to Manzanar. She lost track of her during the war years, and after the war, none of those relocated to the camp ever returned to San Pedro. After all, all their property had been confiscated. Although a sad footnote of our history, the reason given by FDR, was not only for fear of espionage and sabotage, but also for their protection. After all, the hatred thru propaganda was so strong in the mainstream population, that the Japanese American families could have been at risk of retaliation and bodily harm. Nevertheless, I have seen documentaries about Manzanar, and the inexcusable part is that the camp was not very accommodating. They did not take into account the Japanese American diet, and served food that they could not or would not eat. They also did not account for the internees sense of modesty and built communal bathrooms. The toilets were aligned in a row without dividing partitions. One internee recounted their solution to this problem. Everyone entered the bathroom with a paper shopping bag and put it over their heads for privacy while doing their business. And of course we know how the Japanese American young men enlisted in the Army and were sent to Italy to fight in that campaign. Yet, what might be an interesting side note, the Japanese in Hawaii were not interned. I have a friend whose father, a Japanese American from Hawaii, enlisted in the Army and was sent to the Pacific as a translator. He was at Okinawa encouraging the civilians and military to surrender, that they would not be harmed. It was there that the military were committing Hari Kari and the civilians were jumping off the cliffs. My friends mother, an Okinawan, hid in a cave during the occupation, and later met and married, my friends father, the Army interpreter. Question for you Floyd, what is the inscription on the monument at Manzanar? Thanks -- Robert ReedRobert J. Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17074411091706194461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-62633265654883374572008-07-21T21:22:00.000-07:002008-07-21T21:22:00.000-07:00No kidding about the vigil part, Tash. I've talked...No kidding about the vigil part, Tash. I've talked to no one about Manzanar without someone saying how it could happen again. The camp being located so close to Independence, CA, is one of the state's history's great contradictions.Floyd B. Bariscalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865316405393661242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-68373051031136588792008-07-21T21:04:00.000-07:002008-07-21T21:04:00.000-07:00I just passed by Manzanar 2 weekends in a row. It ...I just passed by Manzanar 2 weekends in a row. It boggles the mind on how the relocation could have happened and driving by the site is always a good reminder to keep vigil. Last year, we The museum in Independence has an excellent display of life & art by the Japanese in the camp.Tashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18098034737961019226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-17279810478346555812008-07-21T14:55:00.000-07:002008-07-21T14:55:00.000-07:00Had I know about the Neutra house, I would've trac...Had I know about the Neutra house, I would've tracked it down. Same with the steak house. Now, a Neutra house that serves steak would be too overwhelming.Floyd B. Bariscalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865316405393661242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-75366827784828233382008-07-21T09:23:00.000-07:002008-07-21T09:23:00.000-07:00Another connection to the silent film era is the R...Another connection to the silent film era is the Rossi family. They own Rossi's Steak and Spaghetti House in Big Pine (rated the 17th best steak in California!). Italian immigrants whose background was in stonemasonry. On one of the local trails is a stone cabin now in the hands of the forest service. I believe it was built for silent film star Tom Mix by one of the the Rossi's way back when. Beautiful work. Also worth noting is a Nuetra house in Lone Pine.Pasadena Adjacenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09031325790590238246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-24140540822895899922008-07-17T15:47:00.000-07:002008-07-17T15:47:00.000-07:00Hey, Renegade. This will probably throw your map w...Hey, Renegade. This will probably throw your map way off, no? In any event, you're the one to be thanked for keeping up the map project. So, thanks.Floyd B. Bariscalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865316405393661242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-85197315128029994212008-07-17T15:36:00.000-07:002008-07-17T15:36:00.000-07:00You've added quite a bit of new area to the Google...You've added quite a bit of new area to the Google Map. Thanks for keeping on this and sharing the journey with all of us...Renegade of Funkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02420826212492559485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-67343162698066601392008-07-17T11:36:00.000-07:002008-07-17T11:36:00.000-07:00Thanks, P.A. and G.C. I arrived late at night, sta...Thanks, P.A. and G.C. I arrived late at night, stayed at a motel, and walked out the next morning slammed up against the Sierras. Really beautiful. There's also a fun museum in Lone Pine which chronicles the area's history with Hollywood, everything from the silents to <I>Gunga Din</I> to <I>Iron Man</I>.Floyd B. Bariscalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865316405393661242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-47029697022112003252008-07-17T11:01:00.000-07:002008-07-17T11:01:00.000-07:00I've seen signs for this place for years but never...I've seen signs for this place for years but never stopped by. I had no idea how fascinating it is. I'm definitely putting it on the to-do list. Oh, your shots of the Sierras are truly beautiful.gchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10372910023093688354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3633816278415014207.post-24702914803341775622008-07-14T11:31:00.000-07:002008-07-14T11:31:00.000-07:00I recall many years back reading an article that s...I recall many years back reading an article that spoke of broken crockery from the mess hall found abandoned. I wonder if some of that crockery is on display at the museum?<BR/><BR/>Your photos are beautiful and convince me that I should stop and visit on my next trip up 395.Pasadena Adjacenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09031325790590238246noreply@blogger.com